What happens to genuinely evil people — murderers, abusers — do they face real consequences?

“that when we die, we would be punished. Unfortunately, I was just never sure about the severity of what wrong meant in heaven's terms. Contrary to my belief system, the light never judged me. I was made to judge myself. Another important part of my life's review demanded that I feel the same emotional pain others felt whenever I hurt their feelings with actions or words. By seeing other people's hearts and knowing how they were affected, it caused me to feel remorseful and ashamed. Thankfully, after the experience ended,”9:17

“And in the end, if any one of us had to feel what we would feel, what a person who we may call evil feels on the inside, it would be so crippling. I believe that it would take any person with an ounce of empathy to a different perspective about what do we do about people that we call evil? Because quite frankly, my, my thoughts are, if we were to truly try to, uh, bring more peace, love, and joy into this physical experience, if we were to try to create a heaven on earth, if you will, then it's not about eradicating those who we would call evil. It would be about providing the tools, the help, the care, and the love to help them build a connection, keeping in mind that people who tend to get into that place probably didn't get there overnight and there may be many, many factors, both nature and nurture, that contribute to somebody's what you would call an evil act. And so that could take generations to help support and undo.”13:50

“And even people who've committed the most horrific crimes, a lot of these people have been horribly abused, um, you know, so recognizing when we make a judgment on someone, we're only seeing, like, this person in this moment in time, but what if we were to see, you know, everything that they've lived through, you know, we might suspend judgment or we might say something different.”50:53

“The way I understand it is even the worst of the worst people, when they return, they are shown their lives and they are shown what they did right and wrong.”11:03

“I do not believe that ever would have happened had he stayed in his father's compound, and he also wouldn't have been able to teach people what he taught us.”17:08

“I asked about murderers and knew they were also made out of love and had a horrible time forgiving themselves. I felt so sorry for them. They felt so much emotional pain.”17:25

“I got the impression that people who do evil things vibrate very low, so when they pass, they go to a very low vibrational place surrounded by other low vibration souls and feel intense feelings of pain, anguish, despair, or hopelessness. That was just the impression I got.”4:02

“I looked at Grandma and asked her, What about those who have committed horrible acts against children and other humans? I continued, What about those who are evil at heart, lie, steal, cheat, and what is it that they deserve? The same thing as those who try to be good people?”10:43

“I don't believe in the, um, the heaven and hell theory that's gone on for years, you know, where it's like, if you know, if you're, if you've centered out this life, then you're going downstairs. God, I think it was. You know, for me, it's the, I've read, as I say, lots of, um, people who have had, you know, have had near-death experiences and also they've had life reviews. A lot of people, you know, people who have really messed up in their lives and haven't been too good, you know, have been, let's say, bullies at school, or have gone on to unnecessarily kill people, you know, in a war zone and civilians, and when they hadn't needed to do it, you know, then, then yeah, they're not just going to, those people have had to face up to what they've done, but it's normally in what's called a Life Review, and the Life Review is, you literally, those people who say in their accounts that they go through, they face those people that they bullied, they face us people and families that they killed, you know, in Vietnam or whatever it was, you know, and, and they, they, they kind of go through the experience that those people feel that they've made them feel, you know, they have to go through it, and then. And that's so, it's kind of that's a, it's almost like a life review, but they're not then suddenly said so that's it, so that means you've got to go to hell. It's almost like it's a moment of redemption for them, you know, and it's just, it's brilliant course of understanding where you went wrong because, um, you know, just to be able to be put in that other person's body or mind or soul and realize what they were feeling and what you'd inflicted upon them is really, that's the best form of punishment that could be dealt out, I guess, you know, if punishment is the right word.”

“Um, yeah, I, I don't believe in the, um, the, the Heaven and Hell theory that's gone on for years, you know, where it's like, if, if you know, if you sin throughout this life, then you're going downstairs, kind of thing, you know. For me, it's the, I've read, as I say, lots of, uh, reviews and, um, I'm sorry, reports on on other people have had, yeah, hellish near-death experiences and also they've had life reviews. A lot of people, you know, people who really have messed up in their lives and haven't been too good, you know, have been, let's say, bullies at school, or have gone on to unnecessarily kill people, you know, in, in, in a war zone and civilians, and when they haven't needed to do it, you know, then, then yeah, they're not just going to. Those people have had to face up to what they've done. And but it's normally in what's called a life review. And the life review is, you, you literally, those people say in their accounts that they go through, they face those people that they bullied, they face those people and families that they killed, you know, in Vietnam or whatever it was, you know, and, uh, and they, they, they have, they kind of go through the, um, experience that those people feel that they've made them feel, if you like, you know, they have to go through it. And then, and that's so it's kind of that's, it's almost like a, a life review, but they're not then suddenly said, "So that's it, so that means you've got to go to hell." It's, it's almost like it's a moment of redemption for them, you know. It's just, it's a brilliant course of, of understanding where you went wrong, because, um, you know, just to be able to be put in that other person's body or mind or soul, and realize what they were feeling and what you'd inflicted upon them is really, that's the best form of punishment that could be dealt out, I guess, you know, if, if punishment is the right word.”

“I watch serial killers in their cells being killed by over and over by the people that they killed. The demons would take on the forms of the people that they killed, and they would kill them over and over and over. And what's, here's what's interesting, they would kill them in the ways that they were killed. It literally is eye for an eye, tooth for a tooth down there, so the way they treated others, they were treated themselves.”51:12

“We still judge perpetrators of crime as exactly that: criminals who deserve to be condemned, not only in this life but in the afterlife as well.”18:15

“There wasn't all evil people, there was some, you know, some people who were in jail by driving drunk, or there were some people who did petty thefts, there were some good people who just got caught up, you know, they messed with drugs, or whatever, but then there was a place for real evil people, the child molesters, the murderers, you know, the rape, the gangsters.”13:18

“Then where does the notion of justice come in when we think of a judgmental God or a punishment for a life badly lived?”18:53

“It's not a punishment, but, okay, let's say, let me just, I've said this before on other shows. Let's say you work for a company, and you know you work for a company, and they're making a very bad medication or product, and you want to keep your job, and you're getting a good bonus, but you know you don't say anything because you want to keep that bonus and that job. But you know that that product or that medication, it's going to hurt an innocent person. And everybody gets in this group in the company, and they're doing it for the money, and you hurt that innocent person. Let's say it's a young boy, and it, and he's never going to accomplish all the things he could have because he got hurt or sick from that product. You're going to, when you have your life review, you're going to feel all the disappointment and damage that his parents felt. The anguish at seeing their kids sick. You're going to see the missed opportunities of this person that you interrupted their destiny by your inaction. You're going to feel their hurt from their point of view. You're going to see the consequences of your gross indifference to their humanity. Now, if that's not hell, I don't know what it is. But it's not in the perspective of a punishment. It's a more of an understanding.”58:16

“So it's like, next time do this. And you felt all the pain you did there. Now, I had done a few bad things to people that I hadn't apologized for before I died, you know. I'd done some things that, um, that I, I, you know, to this day, um, you know, I don't condone, you know. But then it was the norm, you know. And this is a part of what these beings were showing me as well. I'll get to that in a second. So I had done some bad things. Now, it wasn't the fact that they were like that light chastisement. That's not what made me feel mad and angry about it. It was the fact that I did it, you know, and that I was convicted and felt so bad for doing it as I could feel it. What, I, I could feel the pain that I inflicted on them, you know.”7:08