UFO Researcher Reveals Personal Encounters - Jesse Michels - DEBRIEFED ep. 32

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April 4, 2025
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Tier 1First Person EncounterInterview with Experiencer
Experiencer: Jesse Michels

Analysis Summary

Program Intel Profile
interviewTopic: otherIntel Value: 7/10

Jesse Michels

Contact Experience Triad

Hynek: CE3

The Encounter

The person recounts their experience while walking in Laurel Canyon during the pandemic. They were with a woman they were getting to know and discussed their interest in aliens. As they walked, they encountered a man with a metal detector, which felt like a strange coincidence. Shortly after, they saw a rectangular, school bus-shaped craft hovering above the treetops, about 50 to 60 feet away. The craft had a metallic gray color and emitted a humming sound. The encounter left them both stunned and questioning what they had witnessed. This experience has contributed to their ongoing interest in UAPs and the search for understanding in this field.

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Program Intelligence Analysis

Executive Summary

The video features discussions about personal UFO sightings and experiences with non-human intelligence. The speakers share their thoughts on the implications of these encounters and the nature of consciousness in relation to UFO phenomena.

Primary Revelation

Witnesses describe multiple encounters with unidentified aerial phenomena, including a school bus-shaped craft and silvery orbs.

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Jesse Michaels
witnesspro disclosure
American Alchemist Podcast
personal experiencepublic testimony on podcast

I think I’ve seen a decent number of UFOs honestly.

non human intelligencespecific

I saw a school bus shaped rectangle thing hovering above the treetops.

Source: Unnamed individual
non human intelligencespecific

I witnessed two silvery orbs while doing breath work.

Source: Unnamed individual
biologicsspecific

A friend of mine, who worked at Area 51, claimed to have seen a reptilian being in custody.

Source: Unnamed individual
scientificvague

I believe that consciousness and nuclear phenomena are repeatable aspects in the UFO world.

Source: Unnamed individual
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Encounter Context

Factual Details

Laurel Canyon

Los Angeles, California, united_states

wooded area
2 witnesses mentioned

Encounter Research Breakdown

Phenomenological Analysis
close encounterCE31 entityreptilian
Moderate Evidential StrengthScore: 16/21first person
Detail & Specificity
3/3
Corroboration
2/3
Physical Evidence
1/3
Unpredictability
3/3
Perceptual Clarity
3/3
Timely Reporting
2/3
Witness Credibility
2/3

The speaker provides multiple detailed accounts of UAP sightings, including specific descriptions and emotional reactions. However, the credibility context is weak, as the speaker does not identify themselves as a trained observer or provide corroboration for their claims. The experiences are intriguing but lack independent verification.

initial sightingminutes

The experiencer and a companion notice a rectangular, school bus-shaped craft hovering above the treetops during a walk.

it's like this school bus shaped rectangle thing hovering like kind of right above the Treetops

observation of orbsminutes

While doing breath work, the experiencer and a friend see two silvery orbs hovering above them, leading to a moment of shared astonishment.

we see two silvery orbs and one's hovering above him one's hovering above me

post-encounter reflectionunknown

After the sightings, the experiencer reflects on the experiences and their implications, feeling a mix of excitement and contemplation.

I think the two things that are repeatable in the UFO world if you are looking at this scientifically and looking for repeatability I think it's Consciousness and nuclear

noeticextraordinary
7/10

Gained insights about the nature of reality and consciousness

visualextraordinary
8/10

Saw a rectangular craft and silvery orbs

auditory
5/10

Heard a humming sound from the craft

reptilian(single)
50%
Demeanornot statedCommunicationtelepathyInteractionnone
Sizeschool bus-sized
Colormetallic gray
Luminositynot stated
Soundhumming
Movementhovering, vertical descent
Five Observables (2/5)
positive lift low observability hypersonic velocity trans medium travel instantaneous acceleration

A rectangular, school bus-shaped craft hovered above the treetops, emitting a humming sound and then descended vertically.

What makes this encounter unique

The encounter involved multiple sightings of unusual aerial phenomena, including a unique rectangular craft and silvery orbs, experienced during altered states of consciousness.

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Analysis Summary

Program Intel Profile
interviewTopic: otherIntel Value: 7/10
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Jesse Michels

First-Person

Contact Experience Triad

Hynek: CE3